Men's 18th Century Frock Coat with Embroidery

From the seller:

RARE Gents French Green Silk Embroidered Court Coat ca 1750 - 1775


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This gorgeous gents coat is made from a sage green silk and is heavily embroidered in ploychrome silk floss. It has a stand up collar, oversized pockets under a deep scalloped flaps, back pleats, elaborate embroidery, and a wool and linen lining. A few very minor spots or stains, minor holes in the wool lining De-accessioned from the Met. Museum of Art. It measures 36 inches around the chest, across the back shoulder is 16, sleeve is 23 and it's 45 inches long. Excellent condition and a real beauty to add to a collection.

From Me:

First, my apologies for not posting over the past almost three weeks. My computer went into meltdown (I was curious what that plastic-y burning smell was...) and I had to get a new one. I wasn't able to get the new one to work at first because of an adaptar issue with the monitor. Then I had to Frankenstein the new computer a bit, add my old hard drive, and now - finally- I have a decent, reliable computer...that may have processing power up to 4.0ghz and 4tb of hard drive space.....

The frock coat: The embroidered frock coat was a popular theme in the late 18th century and, really, for court wear, well up into the 19th Century. Based on the cut of this one, I think it's more 1780's than 1770's.

1770's Men's Outfit Pinstripes!

From the seller:

Rarely Found Offered On The Open Market

Acquired From A Private Collection Deaccession

Original Unaltered Condition

Three Piece Construction, Sewn All By Hand

Fashioned of a Brown Striped Silk

The Breeches With Fall Front, Lined In Flannel Inside

Waistcoat Buttons Closed With Covered Thread Buttons, Flares In Points At The Outer Hips, Would Lace Closed Up The Rear, The Cord Not Original

The Court Coat Falls Long, Covered Buttons Trim Front As Well As The Turned Up Cuffs

The Breeches Have Missing Buttons, The Metal Buttons Seen Are A Replacement. The Inner Jacket Was Relined In The Early 19th C, Linen Label In The Lining. There Is A Large Water Stain On The Inner Lining Only, Not Seen From The Outside. Minor Edge Fray At Breeches Waist With Several Small Brown Stains. Shirt Not Included.

It Is So Rare To Find These Early Suits Complete And In Such Pristine Condition As This. Could Be Worn If So Desired, Not Recommended.

Measurements In Inches

Court Coat:
Chest: 36
Waist: 34
Center Rear Length: 44
Shoulders: 15
Sleeve Length: 24

Waist Coat:
Chest: 40
Length In Front: 31

Breeches:
Waist: 34
Inseam: 14
Outseam: 27




From Me:

I was originally hesitant to post this one until I read the description - I knew the metal buttons weren't right at all. There were other alterations that made me think this was more likely a really amazing Victorian Fancy Dress type outfit but the seller's explanation makes perfect sense. So, yes, it really is 1770's.

A similar one up for sale at Christies
A decade earlier but stripes!
A little over a decade later but still stripes!

Men's Colorful Waistcoat

From the seller:

1870s From France men's silk brocade vest in amazingly vibrant color. The brocade is in vibrant green teal, red blue and green. The buttons have a grape motif on the front and have been colored to match the color of the brocade pattern into which they are placed. By that I meat the top button is tinted red to coincide with the red of the flowers behind it. The second button green and the last three a very deep blue to match the background. The back of the waist coat is a chocolate brown glazed cotton with matching fabric Martingale. Lined in a white fine wool that has many moth holes. A little fraying to threads on the back of the neck. Other than that remarkable condition. Truly museum quality.
CONDITION: VERY GOOD
SIZE: CH-38, SH-15, LNG-21

From Me:

1850 Fashion Plate

The print was just too colorful and crazy to me to look 1870's. Also, the style seemed too long - much more late 1840's/early 1850's.

Late 17th Century/Early 18th C Cloak (?) Chasuble (?) Not sure what it is but it's velvet & silver trim!

From the seller:

ACQUIRED FROM A PROMINENT MUSEUM DEACCESSION

MUSEUM DATED THIS PIECE TO THE 17TH C

ALL HAND STITCHED

FASHIONED OF A DEEP GRAPE SILK VELVET WITH METALLIC GILT BRAID TRIMMING ALL THE EDGES WITH A BRUSH BRAIDING AT THE EDGES

POINTED IN FRONT, SQUARE IN THE REAR

CENTER REAR BACK IN A ROUND OF THE GILT

INTERIOR IS LINED IN SILK, OVER A THICK LINEN WITH PATCHED AREAS SEEN OVER HTE YEARS, SOME SMALL BREAKAGE TO THE LINING IN THE CORNERS WITH ONE PATCH HAVING SEEN SHATTER.

THE COLOR IS A DEEPER PURPLE ON THE REAR WITH THE FRONT SIDE EVENLY FADED SLIGHTLY

A SMALL PORTION OF THE BRAID AND GILT AT THE FRONT HAS A SMALL NIP OF ABSENCE

A 400 YEAR OLD PIECE? CONDITION IS EXCELLENT! A RARELY FOUND VERY EARLY TEXTILE!!





MEASUREMENTS IN INCHES:
LENGTH IN CENTER REAR: 27
LENGTH IN FRONT FROM SHOULDER TO BOTTOM: 45

From Me:

I have no clue what this is. I mean, I know it's something that goes over the shoulders but different cultures called this by different names. It's not quite a Chasuble (garment worn by a priest) as there is no way to cover the front of the person completely. It's not a Jinbaori because the Jinbaori are closed on the sides - besides (teehee!), the trim is very European and the placement of the trim does seem to indicate a Catholic garment. Maybe it was a piece to a grand cope? I'm really not sure but the trim lines would be right for that.

The trim, however, I am sure about. It's late 17th C/early 18th Century.

Rococo or Victorian Men's Waistcoat - you decide!

From the seller:

Vintage Antique 1700s VEST Waistcoat 36 EMBROIDERED METALLIC Silk Satin

ornate embroidery at front with some metallic stitching
fabric has metallic horizontal threads
buttons are embroidered with sequins
2 pockets, fully cotton lined
flannel back with 3 vents

Chest 36" (38 of fabric); Back length 26"



From Me:

Although the front looks 1760's~1770's, the back does not. The back looks very much like what you'd expect with a Victorian fancy dress outfit. So is this fancy dress or is it authentic? I'm not sure. Any thoughts either way?